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Shock Poll: Nearly 40 Percent of Voters Would Back Third-Party Candidate in Biden-Trump Rematch

September 18, 2023 by Mike Miller Leave a Comment

Hey, nobody said 2024 was going to be your average, run-of-the-mill presidential election. And now, based on a new poll from Rasmussen Reports, it appears that the upcoming election could potentially be even more interesting than most of us already thought it would be. 

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As both the Democrat and Republican Parties find themselves in respective predicaments not usually seen by even one party in an election, let alone two — the third-party candidate question continues to be bandied about, and analyzed six ways from Sunday. And as the aforementioned poll found, with valid reason.

The first bottom line: “If the 2024 election proves to be a rematch between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump, many voters are open to voting for a third-party challenger.”

Somewhat shocking, so would 42 percent of Democrats and 35 percent of Republicans.

While the media, political pundits, and supporters of various candidates are wont to treat poll results as news or authoritative predictions, this is where I like to remind readers that polls are merely snapshots of candidates’ support at a particular point in time. 

The second bottom line: With the 2024 election more than a year away, and both major parties facing potentially game-changing events, it’s unwise to confuse poll results with evidence of a future outcome. 

Here’s more:

Forty-two percent (42%) of Democrats, 35% of Republicans, and 37% of voters not affiliated with either major party are at least somewhat likely to vote for a third-party candidate if the 2024 presidential election is a Biden-Trump rematch.

In such a rematch, Biden would get 80% of Democrat voters, 15% from Republicans, and 31% of unaffiliated voters. Trump would get 68% of Republican voters, 14% of Democrats, and 47% of unaffiliated voters.

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Demographics Matter

While overall dissatisfaction with a Biden-Trump redux is significant, a closer look at the demographics reveals an even more interesting perspective, the poll revealed. 

There is a significant “gender gap” in the Biden-Trump rematch preferences, with men favoring Trump by a seven-point margin (48% to 41%) while women voters favor Biden by a nine-point margin, 46% to 39%. Women voters are somewhat more likely to consider voting for a third-party candidate in [a] 2024 Biden-Trump rematch.

Voters 65 and older favor Trump over Biden by a nine-point margin, 50% to 41%, while those under 40 favor Biden over Trump, 44% to 39%. Voters under 40 are significantly more open to voting for a strong third-party candidate if the 2024 election is a Biden-Trump rematch.

Biden is favored by 44% of whites, 49% of black voters, and 36% of other minorities. Trump is supported by 42% of whites, 39% of black voters, and 45% of other minorities. Black voters are most likely to consider voting for a strong third-party candidate in a 2024 Biden-Trump rematch.

With respect to the third paragraph — given the years-long effort of the Democrat Party to paint Trump as racist, not to mention “white supremacist” or “semi-fascist” — who’d a thunk that the former president would be supported by just 10 points fewer black voters and nine points more “other minorities” than Biden? 

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Joe Biden, the Democrat Party, and “mainstream” media were unavailable for comment.

The third bottom line: While the majority of the respective party faithful, including rank-and-file voters, appear to be holding, a growing percentage of potential voters appear disenchanted with both parties.

So What About a Viable Third-Party Option?

By “viable,” I don’t mean a possible “spoiler,” such as Green Party candidate Cornel West, who could potentially take away enough voters from the Democrat Party — particularly if Biden is their 2024 standard-bearer — to affect the outcome. 

What I do mean is whether a strong third-party ticket could actually win the election. 

I can’t answer that question, although I think it would be highly unlikely if not impossible. West Virginia Democrat Sen. Joe Manchin, who continues to flirt with the idea of leaving the party and becoming an independent, continues to intentionally generate buzz over a possible third-party run. 

Additionally, Manchin has reportedly considered both former Utah Republican Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman and retiring Republican Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah) as a potential running mate.  

While either option would be anathema to the GOP, it would be equally unacceptable to the Democrat Party — which is exactly why a 2024 third-party option continues to generate interest.

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The Final Bottom Line

I’ve never been about making presidential election predictions with more than a year to go, but I’ll make a safe exception: There’s no way in hell a third-party ticket will win in 2024. 

Despite the uncertainty that exists in both major parties, at the proverbial end of the day, either a Democrat or a Republican will emerge as the winner. Battered, bloodied, and bruised, perhaps, but yeah.

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Trump vs. Biden Contest Pulling Former President’s Way

September 17, 2023 by Ward Clark Leave a Comment

A new round of polls is making things look even worse for President Biden, especially in a match-up against former President Donald Trump.

A new @CBSNewsPoll finds former Pres. Trump has a one-point edge over Pres. Biden in a potential rematch. Only a third of voters think Biden would finish a second term. By almost three to one, voters think only Trump is physically healthy enough for the job, @salvantoCBS reports. pic.twitter.com/mzb0FcRNyN

— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) September 17, 2023

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On Friday, my colleague Nick Arama gave us an excellent rundown on polls up to that point. There have been some interesting developments since.

One of the more interesting sets of results comes out of a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll, which shows Trump pulling ahead in some key Electoral College states:

U.S. President Joe Biden’s chances of re-election are being jeopardized by voters’ concerns over his age, the economy and crime, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll, creating an opportunity for Republican challenger Donald Trump to return to the White House.

The opinion poll found Democrat Biden, 80, tied in a hypothetical November 2024 election against Trump, 77, the former president who is the front-runner for the Republican nomination, with both receiving 39% of the vote and one in five voters undecided.

Democrats held a strong advantage among voters most concerned about protecting abortion rights, while Republicans had an edge among those worried about crime, the poll found.

The results here—as in abortion versus crime—are not surprising since those results would have been obtained in most Presidential surveys since about 1980. But here’s the onion:

But in a worrisome result for Biden, Trump held a small advantage in the seven states where the 2020 presidential election was closest: Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Nevada and Michigan. In those states, Trump led with 41% to Biden’s 35%, and 24% undecided.

If we plug those states as Trump wins into a proposed 2024 electoral college map (using the 270toWin interactive tool), these are the results you get:

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This is interesting indeed: not a landslide, but a comfortable win. And it’s not unreasonable to think that Arizona and Wisconsin may well be in play, as well.

Donald Trump also holds a significant edge on the age issue:

Voters expressed concern over Biden’s age and his fitness for office. Seventy-seven percent of respondents, including 65% of Democrats, said Biden is too old to be president, while just 39% said Biden was mentally sharp enough for the presidency.

By comparison, 56% of poll respondents said Trump is too old for the office, while 54% said he was mentally sharp enough to handle the challenges of the presidency.

This is sure to be a key issue, given President Biden’s increasing and concerning mental and physical deterioration. 

As of this writing, the RealClearPolitics averages of polling show former President Trump narrowly leading President Biden, 45.6 to 45.  President Biden has an edge over Florida Governor Run DeSantis at 44.8 to 41.4, while former President Trump is trouncing Vice President Harris, 45.3 to 41.3. As far as the GOP nomination goes, the national average has former President Trump way out in front of the pack with 56.6 percent of the vote. President Biden likewise leads the Democrat field with 66.7 percent of the vote.

It would be easy to look at these results and think that 2024 is increasingly shaping up to be a repeat of the 2020 contest, only with both candidates four years older and facing legal challenges. However, it’s important to remember a few things: 

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First, not one primary vote has yet been cast in either party; at this point in the 2008 contest, most people were pretty certain that the contest would end up being between Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani. It’s not too late for everyone’s current assumptions to be knocked into a cocked hat.

Second, President Biden’s health is becoming a serious worry for Democrats, especially given their lack of a capable understudy. Vice President Harris’s approval ratings are similar to those for polecats or navel lint. California Governor Gavin Newsom has denied being interested in the job, at least this time around. 

Third, President Trump is beset with legal challenges. He may be able to campaign effectively despite this; in fact, it may well energize the GOP base like no one has yet suspected.

It is, as yet, very early in the cycle. But it’s sure shaping up to be an interesting race.

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